Drawing people to the awards is not always a good thing. Must I remind you of
last year and "Furry Force"?
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On 12/7/2015 11:29:47 AM, Timothy Susman <
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I just want to point out that people have been agitating for a "Best Podcast"
Ursa Major for over five years now, so that should be on any list of potential
new categories.
And I agree about the Motion Picture and Game and such, but there doesn't seem
to be an easy solution other than to restrict the nominees to members of the
fandom, which is the sort of thing the Ursa committee has time and again
refused to do in the past. Could possibly redefine what qualifies as "furry,"
but again, the committee has been reluctant to do that in the past (at least as
evidenced by some of the nominees). I'm not sure those categories provide
anything useful (other than 'what is most people's favorite game/movie') but
they are fun and people like voting for them, so they draw people to the awards
and that's not bad.
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Sometimes there are worthwhile works that don't make it into the
Ursa's Recommended Anthropomorphic List ... for whatever reason
(maybe the furries who knew, forgot to email the Ursa awards).
Would like to suggest that the Ursa awards have a
Notable Works from Past Years category.
(perhaps have the category every 2 or 3 years?)
For example: today I found a Mike Rugnetta video (of PBS Idea channel)
from 2013 that I think was an interesting essay about furry-related issues.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-D9Xq3Xr8aE&t=11m56s
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(furries brought up shortly after 11m 56s point)
(Furries part of the video mentions desire paths, which are explained
after
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-D9Xq3Xr8aE&t=6m24s
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-D9Xq3Xr8aE&t=6m24s> )
By the way: upcoming book of potential interest...
partial transcript of video (typed them myself because
YouTube subtitles partially incorrect):
"... the hypothesis is that maybe there could and given the
infinite alternate universes inside the internet certainly there
must be a fandom without canonical media ...
... as my close friend and Meme Factory amigo Patrick Davison
points out in a forthcoming Meme Factory book
... there is and that fandom is ... furries ..."
That book is probably the upcoming book at
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/rugnetta/memefactory-writes-a-book
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which probably is coming out this month (or early in 2016).
(The book apparently won't have any images
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/rugnetta/memefactory-writes-a-book/posts/1378665
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*sigh*)
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From: "fredpatten@earthlink.net" <mailto:fredpatten@earthlink.net>
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Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 9:16 PM
Subject: Re: [UMA-discussion] Revamped categories?
Dear Max & Others;
It's certainly worth considering. For the first few years after the awards
were
established, there were a lot of complaints that they were too complicated;
that there were too many categories, and that they should be reduced to only
about a half dozen categories. But public opinion seems to have shifted to
accept all the categories. I think the chances are better today of creating
one or two more, or of splitting Dramatic Short and Dramatic Series into two,
or of dividing Short Fiction into Short Story and Novelette/Novella.
There is confusion between our definition of a novel as 40,000 words and
the Cóyotl Award's definition as 50,000 words that could be resolved.
Discussion?
Best wishes;
Fred
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From: Max DeGroot
Sent: Apr 20, 2015 7:46 PM
To: discussion@ursamajorawards.org <mailto:discussion@ursamajorawards.org>
Subject: [UMA-discussion] Revamped categories?
I was just noticing that when it comes to the awards, many of them seem to
go to non-furs. Such categories as:
Best Motion Picture
Best Dramatic Series or Short Work
Best Game
Actual furs rarely get even nominated. Now, for Motion Picture, yeah,
that’s kind of a given. Best Game, though, could easily be won by an
actual fur for a game designed for furs, and I believe some have
actually won in the past.
Best Dramatic Series or Short Work? Usually won by an animated series,
like My Little Pony or the like.
I’d like to see the award encourage more furs to do creative work. I’d
be willing to help foot the bill for additional plaques or whatever to
create them, even.
I’d love to see the Best Dramatic Short Work or Series split into two:
Best Dramatic Series, Best Dramatic Short Work. Now, admittedly, they would
still likely be both won by pros, but it would leave the door open for some
of the better flash animators, like Cerebus, to have a chance of winning.
In addition, there seems to be no category at all for audio work.
Admittedly, there is very little, but if, say, someone recorded a
short story done by another fur and added sound effects and voice actors,
no matter how good it was, it would likely lose in the Best Dramatic
Short Work category against a commercial that happened to show an
animated teddy bear. And if someone recorded a furry song along the
lines of Rocky Raccoon or What The Fox Say, it would get little notice.
Maybe an award for Best Original Furry Song?
But it would be a start.
Anyway, an idea of how much the plaques cost and offering a category to
anyone willing to sponsor a plaque and can arrange for five different
artists to be nominated... It wouldn’t detract from the awards at all,
I don’t think, and might spark more interest in the awards.
Max DeGroot
Thu, 10 Dec 2015 09:32:37 +0000
Rodney Stansfield <rodso64 [at] hotmail.com>
Frankly, a risk I am willing to take in order for the awards to achieve greater
significance. For that, we need warm bodies.
ROR
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Subject: Re: [UMA-discussion] Revamped categories?
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On 12/7/2015 11:29:47 AM, Timothy Susman <
vulpes@earthlink.net> wrote:
I just want to point out that people have been agitating for a "Best Podcast"
Ursa Major for over five years now, so that should be on any list of potential
new categories.
And I agree about the Motion Picture and Game and such, but there doesn't seem
to be an easy solution other than to restrict the nominees to members of the
fandom, which is the sort of thing the Ursa committee has time and again
refused to do in the past. Could possibly redefine what qualifies as "furry,"
but again, the committee has been reluctant to do that in the past (at least as
evidenced by some of the nominees). I'm not sure those categories provide
anything useful (other than 'what is most people's favorite game/movie') but
they are fun and people like voting for them, so they draw people to the awards
and that's not bad.
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